Russia Today: Zeitgeist: Moving Beyond Money [Peter Joseph / Zeitgeist Movement ]
rt.com/usa/news/zeitgeist-moving-money-utopia/ March 25th 2011. A 20 min personal RT interview is pending as well. rt.comCategory: Education
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Published (on YouTube): 2011-03-26
Published (here): 2012-05-23
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Comments on «Russia Today: Zeitgeist: Moving Beyond Money [Peter Joseph / Zeitgeist Movement ]»:
PaulMcTube on 2012-04-15
Comparing this ...
Comparing this prick to the Anti Christ would probably appeal to his vanity.
stratocaster1986able on 2012-03-23
Gotta love Russia ...
Gotta love Russia Today. Who the fuck else gives The RBE coverage to this extent? If only more networks could do this then maybe our problems would be other sooner.
CntthnkO15 on 2012-03-23
True. And what is ...
True. And what is ownership and of what? Yes, I'm not one of those egotistic, patriotic morons.
Digitaizen on 2012-03-17
USA is more fascist ...
USA is more fascist than socialist, even culture-wise. All twisted and crooked - f_k-up in one word. Without true ownership no freedom is possible, period. Laws are written for the common men, not the ruling Elite who if caught is never prosecuted. Freedom is USA is an illusion. As wisdom goes: "No one is more enslaved than those who think they are free." Fits America. Most Americans will take that as an insult and go into denial. I'm not one of them.
CntthnkO15 on 2012-03-17
What is wrong with ...
What is wrong with "all equal?" When facts are placed in front of you that it is possible and without tyrant rule? I don't even understand how a thinking human being can go against his reasoning. It can only be a defensive or egotistic way of acting. Stop it, listen to his reasons, and try to understand that he does not support the use of anything that has control over another human being -- this is the true definition of freedom. Faith in others cannot last in an unequal world.
CntthnkO15 on 2012-03-17
First of all, if ...
First of all, if some of the technology that is suppressed were to be released, there would be so much job loss. Energy as of now can be free for the entire planet. If energy is free and abundant, there would be no payments, things that are created using energy would cost nothing but the material to create, thus create total abundance for all. Now, if we could have abundance for all, what would be the need for the USD?
CntthnkO15 on 2012-03-17
USA is immensely ...
USA is immensely socialist. Not sure if this is news to you, but there it is. First, all governments in the world force people to pay taxes. Secondly, the idea of ownership is wrong (an illusion), and since no one in reality "owns" something, they are not entitled to it. The train of thought is, if no one owns anything, then everyone owns everything, as in, we are all part of this one global ecological system that we share to live and should behave morally with that in mind.
Digitaizen on 2012-03-17
Most are chasing ...
Most are chasing their tails and barking at it by BLAMING someone but themselves. Trying to change the fruits whilst ignoring the roots is FRUITLESS! ;) It's what Einstein said about madness of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. In short, - BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE WORLD! Stop trying to tell everyone what to do. What we really need to prosper in all respects is very simple - FREEDOM. Governments are taking them away.
Digitaizen on 2012-03-17
The reason our ...
The reason our society is so sick is because we are simply learning - it's growing pains, so to speak. How else would we know better? You learn by making mistakes. And we did, throughout the world, every culture and every nation out there. We got so sick that we cannot go on without some MAJOR changes to the SYSTEM in control. But you can't change something outside of you until you do that HARD work on the inside, on yourself 1st and foremost.
Digitaizen on 2012-03-17
Those BIG "IFs" ...
Those BIG "IFs" don't help, man. Can't force people to share anything thus socialism fails and the other social structure concepts based on that premise of 'good ol Samaritan'. People are at their best NOT when things are easy to get, but when the things are tough like now. Now, I'm not proposing to make things tough on purpose, certainly not this fake money system of debt that we have to endure, what I'm saying is that there must be a balance which comes only from true freedom.
CntthnkO15 on 2012-03-17
Tell me, how can it ...
Tell me, how can it be exploited, you seem you think it's very easy to, so give me just two ways.
CntthnkO15 on 2012-03-17
"Conman Fresco," ...
"Conman Fresco," you clearly are acting stupid and don't want to like him, so I'm not going to bother until you change your attitude to something correct and give actual reasons for being against what he preaches. Because with actual thought and unbiased thought, you will see he is 100% correct.
CntthnkO15 on 2012-03-17
Doesn't matter what ...
Doesn't matter what happened in the past, what is happening now? Shit. Why? Because people are greedy. What makes people greedy? Selfishness. What creates selfishness, the long and still taught concept of preserving ones self by getting a job, hence earning money. If money or the concept of "trading" didn't exist, and instead we all just shared, like we are supposed to, there would be no problems of hoarding or greed, now would there be?
nielss4 on 2012-03-13
Actually, ...
Actually, capitalism has become more efficient and clean, because the capitalists have realised that scientists' motto of 'efficient and clean', translates into more money. And I'm not talking global warming (only one tiny part of the problem, probs the least serious and most overhyped one (and who overhyped it? CAPITALISTS ofcourse lol, short-term thinkers, people who react on impulse, again like children.), I'm talking ecosystems in general. You may want to watch the docu 'Home'.
TheDarkFenix on 2012-03-13
No Money, no ...
No Money, no problem. That makes sense
banzaiian on 2012-03-11
to many assumptions ...
to many assumptions, capitalism is void from science, capitalism wants to take all resources, and the hole in the dam ?? what is the hole in the dam ? how does money add pressure to the hole in the dam ? if you look at the start of the industrial revolution you see pictures of smoke and smog and dirty soot filled skies, the cities are much more clean, as a result of science, capitalism breeds efficiency,
nielss4 on 2012-03-11
Now, I'm not saying ...
Now, I'm not saying capitalism is evil. I'm just saying that humanity should never be 'lead'/controlled by an unconscious 'invisible hand', one who is by very nature not able to make simple, rational decisions. I prefer a scientist who's job is to always find out what happens (to the environment) when we take that or do that, before taking or doing that, over an invisible hand who takes that or does that, and then painfully finds out what happens (to the environment), like a child.
nielss4 on 2012-03-11
...so the planet ...
...so the planet will eventually become more and more unstable. And it will go faster than anyone would have imagined, because capitalism is not a lineair game of 'more', it's an exponential game of 'more'. I'm not saying this to create fear, I'm just using logic (e.g. the bigger the hole in the dam, the more water spills out and pressure created, the bigger the hole becomes, the more water spills out and pressure created, etc.)
nielss4 on 2012-03-11
The universe is ...
The universe is probably infinite, but since our bodies are only capable of existing on this small dot on the edge of the small milky way galaxy called Earth, it's only in our best interest to improve this dot (making it more stable and abundant), instead of trying to take all its resources and turning it into things we don't even want/need, so the ultra capitalists (people who want more than the rest) have invented this 'conspiracy' called subconscious marketing/status/wealth.
banzaiian on 2012-03-10
the world is finite ...
the world is finite- explain how you come to this conclusion. because they are strong words, i think the world has seen much darker days, ww1 ww2 cold war etc, and i dont see it finishing any time soon, you dont know what my thinking is, just because i dont want communism, or what ever some are trying to call it, the fact is we need money, thats why we have it, even the romans had coins, and they had hyper inflation but we still have money some time later, communism zeitgeist is flawed
nielss4 on 2012-03-10
"fresco can start ...
"fresco can start by making 7 billion sandwiches then we can take it from there" Haha, that is impossible and everyone in TZM knows this. Fresco is a visionary, but visionaries are useless without builders and organizers who manifest their visions in the everyday world. Why do you think Fresco is an activist? Because he knows he is useless without your assistance!! COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY. And your negativity is crashing the community. In soccer it's called a rotten apple...
nielss4 on 2012-03-10
Flawed argument. ...
Flawed argument. Just an excuse not to change because that would require that you have to think outside the box, which means loosing your beliefs. I'm sorry but it's this way of thinking (if it can be called 'thinking' at all, more like personal defensive cynicism) which has caused our problems in the first place. Einstein: "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." Oh yes, capitalism has idd given us everything, but the world is FINITE!
banzaiian on 2012-03-05
@steamknife, well ...
@steamknife, well what has he invented? he claims he can give everybody in the world everything they need lol wheres my sandwich
steamknife on 2012-03-05
Would you like to ...
Would you like to provide evidence showing how Fresco is "a ripjob conman"? People don't like criticisms without evidence and certainly neither do I. Please present your evidence. My mind is completely opened.
banzaiian on 2012-03-02
all the fresco ...
all the fresco fanboys have been brainwashed. he is a ripjob conman, he never invented anything, hes a commie cunt, and takes advantage of the stupidpeople, capitalism has created everything we have today from fast cars to global communication. fresco has created zilch, fuck all zero.unless you count bullshit then hes great, in fact hes the new jesus, i mean that pendulum under the car was the worst idea i have ever heard in my life. i wouldnt even buy a used car from him