An Intro. to a Resource-Based Economy [ TEDx - Peter Joseph ]
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Published (on YouTube): 2011-03-22
Published (here): 2012-05-23
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Comments on «An Intro. to a Resource-Based Economy [ TEDx - Peter Joseph ]»:
gorantsar on 2012-04-01
How can you claim ...
How can you claim what you stand for is not political? Politics is not government, it is the way we organize our lives. "Professionalization" of politics is exactly what big businesses want, for different reasons. If you want people to re-think basic assumptions of the system, you need political, philosophical debate. I like Joseph's views, the solutions and the objectives, it has great moral appeal. But, they are political. Behind private interests, there is a (bad) social justification.
toknowandgrow on 2012-03-31
Technocratic ...
Technocratic society, ran be computers or not is insanity. Peter is basically saying that People are too ignorant to run society and we must allow computers. This is fatalistic thinking at best. What we need is people to rise up against capitalism. Most religious republicans will never jump on this band wagon of 'awakening' or 'critical mass'. I find it funny peter mentions natural laws, but advocates a technocratic society...mos of technology is a result of capitalisms destructive nature.
AngelLestat2 on 2012-03-27
i am not, and ...
i am not, and apparently no respected scientist understands this either. How many science persons are behind this?? any... just a group of activist who does not understand the real problems of this RBE system. If you really want a solution to our problems.. search it!!! do research... dont believe the first fairy tale that someone tell you.
jpsflores on 2012-03-25
Isn´t greed and ...
Isn´t greed and ambition present in the most basic human entreprise? The best land to hunt, the most fertile ground, the most abundant stream, etc. The current system was made what it is today by our own good and bad traits, what are the system fault and what are our own? Besides, the advantages of automation are also found in the current economy, it eliminates dull, repetitive and IQ reducing task.
hitchhiker3090 on 2012-03-24
I forgot to mention ...
I forgot to mention, part of RBE is the idea that most if not all the lousy jobs would be eliminated through automation, that way humans wouldn't have to do them.
hitchhiker3090 on 2012-03-24
Greed has more to ...
Greed has more to do with the environment you are brought up in than any sort of intrinsic "human nature." Likewise, incentive is a manifestation of the monetary system, not the other way around. The only reason you have to pay people today to get them to do things is because most of them work degrading and unnecessary jobs. In any case, RBE doesn't claim to be perfection or utopia, but it is certainly far better than what we have today.
jpsflores on 2012-03-23
The whole RBE idea ...
The whole RBE idea sounds elegant enough... And its a great way of keeping a little bit of faith in the world, but I keep thinking that the Human race is, an will always be, petty and greedy. Nobody is always happy and satisfied and just the thought of instantly having all you need without effort makes me afraid of what will people want next! Besides, there will always be lousy jobs in any type of economy, and not having any kind of incentive to do them would be tricky!
bianodias2000 on 2012-03-22
Wrong assumption. ...
Wrong assumption. All models of economy known to this day, from total planning to total freedom, are based on resources. Trade is based on money, which is subject to a banking domination. There can be economy without money, if there is no commerce (embargo) or no money itself. Money is Resource, and subject to scarcity or surplus. The issue, therefore, is the same as any resource: who controls its production, supply and value.
jojo191519 on 2012-03-20
As much as i ...
As much as i support a resource based economy, the technology peter is talking about isn't being built and implemented to the point that we have a choice to change to an RBE.
AdamDeben on 2012-03-15
Anyone who says " ...
Anyone who says "money makes the world go 'round" is full of shit.
kaxitaksi on 2012-03-14
This is so clear ...
This is so clear and self evident, the old shite gotta go..
rubensrosas on 2012-03-12
A VIDA EM PRIMEIRO ...
A VIDA EM PRIMEIRO LUGAR!
cr0uchingtiger on 2012-03-12
It used to be that ...
It used to be that the reason all this corruption was going on was because no one really knew about it or could prove it. What's our excuse now?
thehardcoreguitarist on 2012-03-12
Zeitgeist needs to ...
Zeitgeist needs to get a massive piece of land so we can start the "new" world. Times a wasting...
AdamDeben on 2012-03-11
If I want to make ...
If I want to make a phone call, I would have to go all the way down to the library to get a phone. That would be a hassle, and I'd have to do it several times a day. But how about I rent the phone for a month? It's not like I'll need it the next month. Oh wait, I will. And what if someone wants to call me and I don't have a phone? There are things that we need to use consistently such as phones, clothes, computers, houses, appliances, furniture, etc. We need both access and ownership.
hanspanzer on 2012-03-11
i think a more ...
i think a more accurate way to think about a RBE is to compare it with the dynamics in open-source-projects. It'll be still a market BUT: besides the things in which u r interested anyway, people will tend to work for things they think its needed. So there is still a market mechanism but much less borders and no restrictions buy purchasing power. U r only restricted by you talents and skills. Thats the way i see it.
rexx33 on 2012-03-09
Yes, you are ...
Yes, you are correct. This is what I meant by a "modern" feudalistic system. It's a better version of the old one, but it is feudalistic in nature. The freedom we have to buy, sell and start our businesses fuel the system that supports the Elite or modern aristocracy. How? By the taxes we pay, inflation, etc. In a true free market economy, the federal reserve or central banking system would be superfluous. However, since the system is "owned," it incorporates central banking.
vitaminsandstds on 2012-03-08
Except no one's ...
Except no one's preventing you from buying land, starting your own business, or applying to work for whomever you choose. As long as companies don't cartelize or obtain monopolies, it's not feudalism. I won't deny that the system is feudalistic in many areas, but it's always important to know the difference :)
rexx33 on 2012-03-08
Excuse..me "bro." ...
Excuse..me "bro." It's a modern version of a feudalistic system. Why? Because our labor supports the elite. In the old days, the aristocracy owned the land (today is corporations), and the people worked the land (labor/employment). The people earned a very small portion of the profits (wages) for their work, and the aristocracy (the elite) kept the rest. Yeah..it's feudalism. I am capitalist myself, but I am not blind. I study finance and work as a trader in the capital markets.
vitaminsandstds on 2012-03-08
Only problem is ...
Only problem is that in a feudalistic system, everyone is tied to their land and only the nobles are taught literacy. Capitalism allows people to move as long as they have the money, and just about every capitalist country in the world has a public education system. Those are key tenets of a feudalistic system bro
rexx33 on 2012-03-08
No..thanks. Not ...
No..thanks. Not interested in ECONOMIZING. The world is abundant not scarce. Scarcity is something artificially created by the system. However, economizing and managing resources is a restrictive approach to the an improved economic system I don't see technology as a panacea for all of our problems. The solutions lie with us as individuals. The current system is feudalistic in nature, but an economic system managed by technology is a recipe for sophisticated totalitarism.
vitaminsandstds on 2012-03-07
In an economy ...
In an economy driven by automation, what will all the people do with their time, waste away in bread and circuses? This video speaks of strategic allocation of finite resources, and time is a finite resource. Does this imply that an RBE would try to strategically divide my time? This model looks really easy to corrupt, how could it be maintained so that it doesn't foster the class system that you accuse capitalism of fostering?
vitaminsandstds on 2012-03-07
The problem with ...
The problem with the assumption that cost efficiency and sustainability are inverses is that the more sustainable a system is, the less it costs to maintain it, ergo sustainability correlating positively with cost efficiency. When markets control a resource, they learn about the properties of the resource via research and communication, and developing more efficient ways to produce and allocate the resource. What in an RBE will motivate the new managers to do a good job with their resources?
vitaminsandstds on 2012-03-07
Help me out if I'm ...
Help me out if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, the free market's all about voluntary exchange of goods and services, anyone can start a business and the ones that can help the most people the most efficiently can acquire more resources to do so. It works, just so long as no one forces anyone to buy anything, and there aren't crippling regulations that only the rich can afford. There is no message of SUBMIT OR STARVE, but in a system of top-controlled resource allocation, it's the only message.
grn2007 on 2012-02-29
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