The Zeitgeist Movement - Common Objections
Recorded live at the Quaker's Friends House on April 8th 2010 at the event "Alternate Ways of Governing Society" which also featured talks by the Green Party, Simpol, and A World to Win. A speach by Ben McLeish http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com http://www.thevenusproject.com http://www.thevenusprojectdesign.comCategory: Nonprofit
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Published (on YouTube): 2011-01-02
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culturaltheorist on 2011-12-29
Casevil - don't try ...
Casevil - don't try that rubbish here. Peter and Jacque used to work together in public until the Venus project threw a hissy fit and inexplicably "left". Don't pretend Peter stole things from him in secret. And Jacque got his inferences from many other sources without ever openly admitting where he got it. This is about working together, not dividing.
peterjol on 2011-08-27
The sad part is ...
The sad part is the amount of people who are so scared of any real change that they prefer to continue supporting a monetary system even though they know the future can only keep on getting worse.
hottyfromnotty on 2011-08-25
A lot of the ...
A lot of the comments on here are from people who have done very little research into TZM. Do your research and I can assure that most of you will be inspired by the ideology. TZM offers many solutions to our current state of affairs, and can manifest a globally emerged system, where social design and technology balance abundantly.
zentonil on 2011-08-22
Oh, so you're ...
Oh, so you're saying that the Zeitgeist Movement is the fulfillment of communism that the world couldn't achieve 100 years ago? No thank you.
zentonil on 2011-08-22
I agree, well said.
I agree, well said.
stri2003 on 2011-08-03
Communism was never ...
Communism was never applied, simply because the technology and the knowledge of the time were inadequate. Even Lenin in his writtings admits that he would not built communism because he was unable to do so. The Soviet system was a form of premature socialism. All those technologies like geothermal etc. were unknown 100 years ago.The same applies to the environmental issues of today. Back then the effects of human activity were unknown. Now however it is possible and zeitgeist demonstrates that.
gfdgf2 on 2011-06-30
i like how he ...
i like how he compares wikipedia to THE WORLD. so much more complex than what is described here ... What about order? safety?even if you live in an aware and plentyfull society you have to have something to protect you just in case, and im not even talking about the transition to such an environment
niriop on 2011-06-28
"A group of people ...
"A group of people coming together, deciding what's best for people sounds like a Republic to me" Not really; it actually sounds more like the classical definition of democracy. "Except in this case, there won't be any money to corrupt politicians" The problem runs far deeper than the existence of a monetary system; the entire capitalist superstructure, with its hierarchies and patriarchies and lop-sided power relationships require total deconstruction and assessment.
blackyblackblack505 on 2011-06-28
A group of people ...
A group of people coming together, deciding what's best for people sounds like a Republic to me. Except in this case, there won't be any money to corrupt politicians, which we here in the U.S. have first hand experience with.
niriop on 2011-06-27
Zeitism is still a ...
Zeitism is still a form of communism--the Venus Project fits the classification of a communist society near exactly, that of a society based around a non-monetary gift economy, even if it has been watered down to the level at which uneducated teenage lay-abouts can understand it. The speaker is a disengenuous pseudo-intellectual sophist. However, from what I have read, it seems that Zeitism will almost immediately degrade into technocratic oligarchic managerism upon a real world application.
MrBjrellul on 2011-06-27
Hears a question ...
Hears a question how do u expect to get from were we are today to a resourse based economy
jklsdfwerghththgeefe on 2011-06-05
purely wasteful. ...
purely wasteful. Lazy and such stereotypes r pointless as such all r created from nature remember nature also effect genes if u didn't know. Yes as one tzm movie stated lets create weapons of mass creation rather then weapons of mass destruction. The "controlling" computer if u want to call it would have its main purpose as an inventory mechanism. Tell me what would u rather do do all the calculation a calculator does urself or use the calculator. If u say urself ill just laugh my ass off
jklsdfwerghththgeefe on 2011-06-05
the idea behind a ...
the idea behind a society driven by a form of currency and such not money itself. The whole idea behind tvp is that money itself isn't bad its the thought processes that come with it we already have scarcity y compound it with an extra thing that doesn't actually exist. It is already well known by many scientists and such that with the technology that we have to feed and support our populace and more. Though our technology is hoarded and used a lot purely for the sack of domination which is
MrGamestop101 on 2011-04-15
for what we would ...
for what we would do. hmm i already get out of school at 12:10 and go to bed around 9:00 most of the time i take a nap or lay in bed and think. every now and again i like a boring momtonous job to stop myself from thinking it is a nice break from doing what i like to do. again before someone attacks me im not bashing tvp just saying. hey here is one lazy guy for you.
creamone on 2011-04-15
What or Where is ...
What or Where is the good money? I didn't know there was such a thing as good money. Do you mean getting rid of the central banks. That's been tried before in the past multiple times. Watch the documentary called The Money Masters, its about 3 hours long. Central or Reserve banks always manage to come back. Been there done that. Time for real solutions and The Venus Project has them.
jeffiek on 2011-04-14
continued The ...
continued The central banks of the world have certainly poisoned the money supply. No argument there. Poisoned food doesn't make food bad. It makes poison bad. NO, don't eat the poisoned food. YES, go find some good food. Same idea applies to money.
jeffiek on 2011-04-14
"Money is power, ...
"Money is power, power is money, with out it out how do you influence others to follow you" God manages to control people without money. And he doesn't even exist! "if you and every one has free access to resources" Which resources???? Everything??? You've only mentioned food. While we're on that topic, notice that it's the parts of the world that don't have money are the ones that don't have food? Strange coincidence, isn't it?
creamone on 2011-04-14
This is your quote ...
This is your quote "I don't want to live in your futuristic hell world. You are going to have to kill me and billions of others first." 1st of all, I doubt you have spoken to billions of people and they share the same feelings as you. 2nd why don't you just kill yourself, you lazy bum.
creamone on 2011-04-14
Classic ...
Classic disinformation about Zeitgeist Movement: NWO, Utopia, Communism, Socialism, Illuminati, Technology & robots will tell us what to do. Wow! Can you guys come up with something better that this? The TVP has a web site with a FAQ if you would bother to check it out. It answers all these concerns about the movement. This is a great example of how the monetary system has created lazy people who don't have time to look up facts anymore. They prefer to spit out heresay propaganda.
creamone on 2011-04-14
Money is power, ...
Money is power, power is money, with out it out how do you influence others to follow you? How do you control people? For example let's say you build a hydroponic plant that's capable of feeding your entire city. You can't sell it in a RBE it has no value, if you and every one has free access to resources. If you don't want to put it to good use, People will find some one else who built a hydroponic plant with the same capabilities or better that is willing to share.
creamone on 2011-04-14
I quoted u saying " ...
I quoted u saying "They are talking about Technology controlling everything. Guess who is going to control all that technology? The ones who create or own it." RBE is a social system that doesn't use money, barter, or trade. In this society if you create something you can either share it or keep it to your self, but ask yourself why would u keep for yourself if it can benefit yourself and others? What's to gain? Somebody else could create the same thing you designed and share it
timberwolves100 on 2011-04-14
Zeitgeist Movement ...
Zeitgeist Movement is classic disinformation. They tell the truth about the Federal Reserve and I agree about religion dividing people. However the most obvious dangerous part is being overlooked. They are talking about Technology controlling everything. Guess who is going to control all that technology? The ones who create or own it. It's pure garbage that it's going to be "shared" by the people. This is a promotion for the New World Order, whether that is the intent or not.
ammaroo1975 on 2011-04-12
I don't want to ...
I don't want to live in your futuristic hell world. You are going to have to kill me and billions of others first.
iamLI3 on 2011-03-30
sadly yes >_> .....
sadly yes >_> .....