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Zeitgeist the Movie ≠ The Zeitgeist Movement

In hindsight, I think I should be honest that I think the folks at Atheist Experience have been kind of dickish about Zeitgeist: The Movie. This is to say nothing of an exceptionally poor blog post on Moving Forward by someone affiliated with the website. I would like to hope that particular blog was not placed by one of the presenters, but perhaps someone adopting the facade of a true skeptic by using their website to create a disparaging and highly credulous commentary on a movie, that they admitted they DID NOT WATCH. My only comment on the Moving Forward blogpost is that it is a deep shame the banner of Atheist Experience, which has taught people a lot about careful inquiry and rational analysis, was used to wrongly inform people of the content of a movie of which not a single frame was viewed. I find this quite astounding, and embarrassing. But back to the first movie. They claimed to deconstruct the movie and never really did, mischaracterized it as claiming Christianity is a secret esoteric conspiracy, which he never claimed, and his main arguments about the superstitutious common ancestors of all major religions being sun God worship is still valid, not ridiculous, regardless of certain details or the way it is framed. So I think in retrospect I gave the impression in this video that I agree with their behavior in regards to the claims in the first part of the movie, when in fact I don't. Also, in this video I state that I disagree with many things in the movie. That needs to be explained and I should have been more specific: I disagree with some of the specific details he attributes to certain messiah figures, NOT the overall interpretation that have tons of overlapping characteristics, and that Jesus has likely taken on lots of attributes from previous Gods, leading all the way back to ancient Egypt. In fact, I once took a mythology course and they teach this in their standard courses. So no, it is not conspiratorial nonsense at all. As I stated in the video but, as far as I am concerned in review not clearly enough: the problem the folks at Atheist Experience seem to have done, as a reliable indicator of what non-Christian intelligent people think, is they have misinterpreted this first part of the movie as trying to present some kind of secret conspiracy whereby Christianity was formed under an esoteric doctrine to control people, that church leaders and so on are aware of this terrible secret, and that they consciously worship the sun and pagan Gods while pretending it is Jesus and the Christian church to everyone else. Please don't be ridiculous. That was never the intent of the film, and if someone like me can clearly tell the difference between that kind of argument, and the argument from comparative mythology that Peter Joseph actually makes, then so can you. I believe that their fundamental problem is with the emotional and potentially paranoid-sounding tones of the movie, as some people could easily interpret. However, I really don't care about this. They and others have stated that they have a major problem with misleading people with conspiracies: I actually have a major problem with people falsely interpreting something to be a conspiracy, and constantly pushing out the idea that therefore, it is all bunk. As I state in the video, clearly this is a debate for mythology and the evolution of religion, and the overwhelming similarities between different hero myths and ancient Egyptian beliefs cannot be easily passed off with a reference to the conspiratorial tones of Zeitgeist: the Movie. My apologies to anyone who feels that I have given the impression that the arguments presented in this movie should just be disregarded. That was not my intent. And my appreciation goes to GalinorGustave and voiceofreason467 as well as certain other individuals for educating me on certain subjects important to this. A response to a recent video by GalinoreGustave: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO74X7M0zJ0 Zeitgeist Movement Knowledge Base related question: http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kb&task=article&article=3&Itemid=100091 Atheist Experience blog discussing emails and Zeitgeist: the Movie: http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2009/06/flood-of-zeitgeist-emails.html http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2008/12/unofficial-atheist-experience-response.html Lecture on 9/11 referenced in the video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4617650616903609314#

Category: Nonprofit
Author: Neanderthalcouzin
Published (on YouTube): 2010-10-25
Published (here): 2012-05-23
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Comments on «Zeitgeist the Movie ≠ The Zeitgeist Movement»:

Neanderthalcouzin on 2011-12-30
it was in the blog
it was in the blog

movcrit on 2011-12-29
When did she ...
When did she mention the zeitgeist movement?

starknight97 on 2011-11-21
Jews is general I ...
Jews is general I agree Zionist are the same a u.s. banker on W street pulling strings making thing happens. Yet not all Jews are brainwashed think all over old Israeli is theirs. To be honest though 1% that are making 99% march on Wall street right now i a bigger problem how do you think want that oil in the middle east. then keep vetoing important Arab politics in the Middle East. Just saying Jews is like Just saying Arabs after they have pledged both Christians and the Caucasians.

mrtruthify on 2011-11-21
"Jews"
"Jews"

starknight97 on 2011-11-20
So what your point ...
So what your point evil people will always resist good are you saying your evil?

Frizzurd on 2011-10-19
Peter Joseph < ...
Peter Joseph < Joseph Campbell

Neanderthalcouzin on 2011-10-03
sure no problem thx ...
sure no problem thx for the suggestion. I am very busy but I will try to add some time.

ctsfinestjon on 2011-09-22
Woaaaa did anyone ...
Woaaaa did anyone else notice the white 2-pac at 2:44 ???

Duncdagger on 2011-08-14
@ ...
@JakobsMovieTutorials Yes. The Cheese Movement has almost nothing to do with the cheese movement. I mean they are connected but not really. One has capitals and one doesn't but their not really rela anyway because most people don't form movements about cheese (just me then! :( :p ). But I know what u mean, lol.

mphello on 2011-05-26
Ah, yes. The ...
Ah, yes. The symbol function in MS Word. I LOVE that! I've used that several times to get all those wacky characters in Cyrillic, Arabic, Hebrew, as well as French!

Neanderthalcouzin on 2011-05-26
:) thanks for the ...
:) thanks for the question. I used the symbol function in microsoft word, put it on a regular document, then I cut and pasted into the title of the video when uploading. And with that, I have spilled my bucket of mystery everywhere.....the mystique is gone!

mphello on 2011-05-26
I got the biggest ...
I got the biggest earth-shattering mystery question of all to ask: HOW did you get a "not equal sign" into the title of your YouTube video? On my other channel, I have uploaded many videos, and I see NO feature that allows one to enter anything but pure text from the keyboard, which does NOT include the "not equal" sign.

jamestargetedindiv on 2011-04-03
Watch a Pre-January ...
Watch a Pre-January 8th copy of Inception. Listen closely when the actors say imagine, reality, and safe, or point pistols. You'll hear the words, Loughner, offin' her, part of the word Giffords, and much more. Some say they hear, do it.

mrtruthify on 2011-03-31
The government and ...
The government and legal system of the United States, Canada, Austraila, New Zealand and or course Britain, is totally controlled by the Crown. The British Monarch is not the Crown. The Crown is the Inner City of London (an independent State in London belonging to the Vatican system). Its a banking cartel, which hides its true power. The City is in fact the Knights Templar Church, also known as the Crown Temple or Crown Templar, and is located between Fleet Street & Victoria Embankment.

mrtruthify on 2011-03-31
The united states ...
The united states of America (note lower case, emphasis added) was Incorporated in the 'Act of 1871' (now refered to as the "UNITED STATES" or "United States", (note capitalization, emphasis added). *Bankruptcy was declared twice. In the *second (corporate) "U.S." Bankruptcy (1950), the *Secretary of Treasury (Peurto Rico) was appointed "Receiver" for the bankrupt U.S. Coorporation in *Reorganization Plan No. 26, Title 5 USC 903, Public Law 94-564, "Legislative History," page 5967).

mrtruthify on 2011-03-31
Indeed.. But to ...
Indeed.. But to get throgh to sheeple.. who use their smug subtleness to "lean" on those intelligent enough to break the herd mentally and who care enough to try and pull the masses heads out of the sand.. you have to do exactly that.. SHOUT with a loudspeaker or they go right back to mindnumbing TV and lattes.. Clueless... Communication VS Conversation.. Whats the difference.. Hmmm? Maybe one is fuedalism and the other is independent expression from the herd..

Neanderthalcouzin on 2011-03-31
I dont like people ...
I dont like people using comments to bully people and the text equivalent of leaning over them and shouting in their ear with a megaphone. Please don't do that, and its not about trying to be all caring, its about not being a dick.

Neanderthalcouzin on 2011-03-31
how do you mean?
how do you mean?

TheBerserker50 on 2011-03-31
this dude speaking ...
this dude speaking says nothing.

mrtruthify on 2011-03-11
Menachem Begin- ...
Menachem Begin- ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER 1977--1983: "Our (Jewish) race is the MASTER RACE. We are *DIVINE GODS on this planet. We are as different from the INFERIOR RACES as they are from INSECTS. In fact, compared to our race, other races are BEASTS & AMIMALS, CATTLE AT BEST. Other races are considered as HUMAN EXCREMENT. Our DESTINY is to RULE OVER THE INFERIOR RACES. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by OUR LEADER with a *ROD OF IRON. THE MASSES WILL LICK OUR FEET & SERVE US AS OUR SLAVES"

mrtruthify on 2011-03-11
Menachem Begin- ...
Menachem Begin- ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER 1977-1983 "Our (Jewish) race is the MASTER RACE. We are *DIVINE GODS on this planet. We are as different from the INFERIOR RACES as they are from INSECTS. In fact, compared to our race, other races are BEASTS & AMIMALS, CATTLE AT BEST. Other races are considered as HUMAN EXCREMENT. Our DESTINY is to RULE OVER THE INFERIOR RACES. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by OUR LEADER with a *ROD OF IRON. THE MASSES WILL LICK OUR FEET & SERVE US AS OUR SLAVES"

mrtruthify on 2011-03-11
ALLLLLL OF YOU.. ...
ALLLLLL OF YOU.. STUPID STUPID CATTLE... TALKING ABOUT THIS & THAT.. CLUELESS TO REALITY.. YOU THINK BECAUSE YOU ARE KIND & CARING THAT MANY GROUPS & PEOPLE ON EARTH ALL THINK LIKE YOU? YOU CANT SEE YOU ARE ALL ALREADY ENSLAVED.. THIS WORLD ISN'T "MODERN".. IT'S A PRIMITIVE SLAVE COLONY! YOU THINK TOO MUCH.. TOO MUCH.. YOU STUPID GOIM WILL BE EXTERMINATED BY THE ONE EVIL THAT HAS NEVER BEEN FACED.. THOSE WHO HAVE WORKED FOR CENTERURIES TO DESTROY YOU & YOUR RELIGIONS.. ZIONIST JEWS....

mrtruthify on 2011-03-11
Uri Avnery, 'The ...
Uri Avnery, 'The Night After' 2003: "They are the so-called neo-cons, or neo-conservatives. A compact group, almost all of whose members are JEWISH. They hold the KEY positions in the Bush administration, as well as think-tanks that play important roles in formulating US policy & ed-op pages of the influential newspapers.Seemingly, all this is good for Israel. The US controls the world, WE CONTROL the US. Never before have JEWS exerted such an immense influence on the center of world power"

mrtruthify on 2011-03-11
"I've never seen a ...
"I've never seen a president - I don't care who he is - stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what a grip those people have got ON OUR GOVERNMENT, THEY WOULD TAKE UP ARMS. Our citizens certainly don't have ANY IDEA what goes on." Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

mrtruthify on 2011-03-11
-Sermon by Rabbi ...
-Sermon by Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, former Chief Sephardic Rabbi of Israel, 18 October 2010 "Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews" The Jerusalem Post- "The sole purpose of non-Jews is to serve Jews. Why are Gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi & eat. That is why Gentiles were created." Gentiles were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world -- only to serve the People of Israel"